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The Books You Read on Purpose
Moderated by catahoula
Posted by: Taron
May 4, 2008  (17 days and 1 hours ago)
LOTR U-Ru-Kai Orcs

I guess that is how you spell it. Are they smarter and stronger than the average orc? I remember a scene in the movies where Gimli warns that these are no ordinary orc, "there armor is thick" and so on. Also what is the difference between Goblins and Orcs?

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I believe the Uruk-hai orcs were orcs mixed with humans, and they were all around better than normal orcs. I don't think there's any real difference between goblins and orcs--the terms, I believe, are interchangeable, though I have heard some people say that a goblin is just a smaller, quicker orc.

white lancer
May 4, 2008
(17 days and 0 hours ago)

Tolkien barely seperated the two. Throughout the novels, he called the Uruks "orcs", making me really think there's no real difference between them. Plus, just once he gave a discription of their size, but it was so vague, I barely took them seriously. Thank goodness Jackson made them look huge and awsome.

Gen. Michael
May 4, 2008
(16 days and 23 hours ago)

Well since we are all having JoyGasms over the films that said the Urikhai were better then the orcs (even though the orcs never were as horribly owned as the Urikah) I belive the main difference is that Urikhai were manufactured by Sarumon.

LameMovie
May 4, 2008
(16 days and 18 hours ago)

I think the Uhru-kai were once elves that were captured, enslaved, and tortured, but I don't remember Tolkein mentioning anything from that point to when Sauruman changed them into the Uru-khai. It's been a few years since I read the books. There was a battle between the orcs and goblins, so they must have been separate.

(I don't know the right spelling, either.)

'mom
May 5, 2008
(15 days and 22 hours ago)

The original orcs were elves that were captured and twisted, but not by Sauron, by Morgoth. It's been a while since I read the books, but I don't recall a battle between the orcs and goblins, and I thought I had read somewhere that they were the same. :-/

white lancer
May 5, 2008
(15 days and 20 hours ago)

I'm pretty sure it's spelled Uruk-hai.

white lancer
May 5, 2008
(15 days and 20 hours ago)

Battle is the wrong word. It was more of a big fight or brawl. I think the orcs are larger than goblins, but I don't remember reading that they are the same. But I don't claim perfect recall.

'mom
May 9, 2008
(12 days and 13 hours ago)

I always thought they were goblins and orcs mixed and sauromon did crazy stuff to them to make them fighters.

rebotco
May 19, 2008
(1 day and 19 hours ago)


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