You already know what I'm thinking. Do you have the proof yet?

Dude you showed this proof and me,tajek,GSS2 (sorta) and I think a couple of others are the only ones who believe you. Basically everyone else thinks that site is a fake or made by someone whom is just a actualy I forget why people dont beleive its real, except for the fact that its not famous yet and it hasent been shown adverteised in stores,tv or anywhere yet so to them it must be fake still. But I dunno it could be real but just made by a person whos really lame in the facts of DBZ. The facts that Hlaf saiyans cant go beyond SSJ2, and that the Kai Buu killed was dead and good, and the fact that uhh actually thats it.

Hmmm.....

I heard that only full blooded saiyans can reach Ssj 4.

Ha.

As I said Half saiyans cant go past SSJ2 so if this is real the person who made it mustive made a lot of mistakes.

Well Teddi it's still fun read stuff like this. Obviously it doesn't really fit in with the dragonball line but it's still cool

Ohh I kow that. It IS still cool. I mean I like it a lot. I was just stating a fact.

When can only half bloods go further than ss2?

Gotenks was still technically a half saiyan but he reached Ssj3 didn't he?

Ya, that ticks me off, gohan and trunks can only go SS1, how did there fusion turn into SS3? When vegeta and goku are real strong, but only manage SS1 or 2.

BardockPower- I've never seen anything more authentic!!!It's japanese, which is more authentic then if it was in Enlgish.I've read all the db/z books and It looks real authentic. And it's on akira toriyama's official site!!

Teddy-Where does it say half bloods can only go SS2? If it is in the cartoon then it's wrong, manga is more reputable!! And even Akira Toriyama makes mistakes. Did you know that he was gonna end Dragonball at the freiza saga, but went on, 2, 3 more times! So the facts had to change!

True Z Fan- Since DBGT isn't the most canon thing ever, then someone saying full blooded saiyans can only reach SS4 is ridiculous. There was a legend to where the legendary super saiyan was only one. So that law was broken. Besides, goku and all the other saiyans turning Super Saiyan is luck, how could no one do it then they all of a sudden do it.

AFA-I understand what you are saying I am just going by what most people on the fourum say.

Well I'm on the forum and I say they can go past ssj2

Also I heard their was a special legend that went with ssj3. That only one ssj3 appears every 10,000 years. That was total bull crap considering Gotenks appeared as a ssj3.

More than likely it depends on the strength of the saiyan rather they can go up all these levels, and that's what I go by, not everything else lke those sayings that only certian saiyans can reach a certain level. There are too many contradictions with all that. If they train hard enough, it could possibly happen.

I dont know then...

AFA-jeesh,I'm getting tired of this canon and non-canon crap.

Isn't there a limit to it?

Lol, I barely found out what Canon meant alittle while ago, But considering what it means, you can use it on stuff. But ya, alot of stuff arent' canon, i'm not sure why people just don't say that it's not real or something like that, anyways, I gave DBAF to the masses, enjoy!!! And if you compare it to any other dbaf manga, it's the best looking, for sure toriyama!!

Shouldn't canon mean originally from the Manga but non-canon just not originally made but still existant?

I would accept that more than people just calling something fake or "never occured".