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StarCraft Forum (PC)

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Posted by: Red9
Dec 30, 2007  (134 days and 15 hours ago)
Halo a ripoff starcraft?

I've been a big fan of SC for a long time, and this has been bothering me ever since Halo got real big. I was wondering if anyone else had the notion that Halo got a lot of foundations from starcraft.

Here are a few examples..

- Each has three dominant races

- The three races are fighting conquest-style, though for Halo, they're rings, and SC, it's planets

- There is a human race, a technologically-advanced alien race, and an evolving alien bug race.

- The human races both consist primarily of "marines".

- The advanced alien races both consist of a plasma-shooting, shield-bearing soldiers, usually fueled by some prophecy or belief.

- The evolving alien race is a mutation of other DNA thrown into their pool. The zerg units, are based off of other animal DNA from the series, morphed into the zerg unit base. For Halo, well, it's pretty obvious a lot of the enemies are mutated marines and elites.

- The Protoss have a civil war. And in Halo, there is sort of civil war, between the Covenant and the Brutes, but it depends on your perspective if the two were even part of the same race (looking at all of them, none of them really seem like the same race anyway, apperance-wise).

Those are just a number of things that kind of relate between SC and Halo a bit too closely to say that Halo wasn't based off of the classic Starcraft itself. I was just wondering if anyone else thinks so too.

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- Each has three dominant races

A lot of RTS games do.

- The three races are fighting conquest-style, though for Halo, they're rings, and SC, it's planets

When three civilizations fight to the death, how else will they fight? Besides, the Halo installations aren't the only things they're fighting for. See: Harvest, Reach, Earth.

- There is a human race, a technologically-advanced alien race, and an evolving alien bug race.

Three sci-fi archetypes. They could be practically anywhere.

- The human races both consist primarily of "marines".

There's a difference between the Terran Marines and the UNSC Marines. The Terran Marines consist of rehabilitated criminals (at least, that was the method used by the Confederacy). The UNSC Marines consist of flash clones.

- The advanced alien races both consist of a plasma-shooting, shield-bearing soldiers, usually fueled by some prophecy or belief.

Protoss use Phase Disruptor weaponry. They are the archetypical warrior-race in the sci-fi genre. The Covenant are a religious conglomerate of several different races.

- The evolving alien race is a mutation of other DNA thrown into their pool. The zerg units, are based off of other animal DNA from the series, morphed into the zerg unit base. For Halo, well, it's pretty obvious a lot of the enemies are mutated marines and elites.

The Flood are parasitic. The Zerg, in a way, are somewhat parasitic as well, but the Overmind is seeking to infest those with great psionic potential/power while the Gravemind simply wishes to consume all as food.

- The Protoss have a civil war. And in Halo, there is sort of civil war, between the Covenant and the Brutes, but it depends on your perspective if the two were even part of the same race (looking at all of them, none of them really seem like the same race anyway, apperance-wise).

A. The Aeon of Strife was years before the events of Starcraft. The Covenant Civil War was during the Human-Covenant War, and it was the Elites that separated, not the Brutes.

B. None of them are the same race. The Grunts are Unggoy, the Jackals are Kig-yar, the Elites are Sangheili, the Brutes are Jiralhanae, the Drones are Yanme, the Hunters are Lekgolo, and the Engineers are Huragok. They're all brought together by belief in the Great Journey.

Protoss119
Dec 30, 2007
(133 days and 15 hours ago)

Also, about that last point.

C. There's a civil war in GalCiv II between the Drengin and the Korath. So we automatically assume it was ripped off of Starcraft? No; instead, we say it was ripped off from Star Control II. ;)

Protoss119
Jan 6, 2008
(127 days and 14 hours ago)

So what blizzard ripped starcraft off from Warhammer 40K "Tyranids=zerg", "Space Marines=Terran"(or whatever the human race is called), "Eldar=protoss". So I wouldn't be complaining.

Ragged War
Feb 8, 2008
(93 days and 19 hours ago)

Well for the Eldar-Protoss comparison i'm not to sure about that one, but i'll stick by it.

Ragged War
Feb 8, 2008
(93 days and 19 hours ago)

Pick up 'Ringworld' by Larry Niven.

SC wasn't in any way ground-breaking, so voicing grievance over Halo is silly.

GameTalk Hint Line
May 4, 2008
(8 days and 13 hours ago)


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