Don't wuss out Rawibs...remember, 13 days from now.

I've invited him/her to lunch. I don't know anything about a fight being scheduled.

Masse tagged the time and place. Please post it again.

There's nothing to it. Unless Tek has training, then it'll be 50\50.

I'm meeting you for lunch Oct 15 Maggie's Galley in Waynesville NC

I don't know why training comes into this, but I took 7 years of tae kwon do and wrestled heavyweight for my junior/senior year in high school. I've worked in the trades (electrical) for about 6 years total. I weigh 350 lbs and can still run/dance/prat fall while singing, which is useful as I am a classically trained actor specializing in humorous roles in musical theatre.

And to reiterate: I am 30. I arranged this meeting with the given knowledge that Rawibs is either 28 or 21.

I'll be there and I'll win.

Not sure what you plan to win.

If you really meet for lunch and something good comes out of it, I will take care of the bill.

Masse, Rawibs didn't even ask what time we are to meet. He/she has no intention of showing up.

I'm sorry, what's that Tek?........

Nothing? Dude, I replied less than 5 minutes from yours. You scared of me?

A time?

Any time?

Nothing.........

That's what I thought!

What strange Nation do you people live in that you can't meet for lunch if you don't have an exact time? Lunch is at lunchtime, isn't it? Weird customs you must have there.

You know it's strange how you and WinterBorn show up here at the same time.

Stranger things happen.

And you can tag all the posts you want dude, but it doesn't change anything. The 5 different names that come here already saw them. The damage has been done. You only make me look good by tagging anything that makes you or Tek look bad.

I'll be back later!!!

Lunchtime depends on your type of work. I don't eat lunch until after work.

I had originally posted a time. Rawibs elected to disregard it and the date/place....and then it was tagged. He/she had responded to the thread BEFORE such info had been tagged.

This time, when I provided MOST of the info, Rawibs did not hesitate to say "I'll be there", yet the wuss hadn't even asked what time to meet.

Rawibs never intended to come up to the mountains. That has now been proven.

My point has been made.

Rats! I hate to see a lunch go to waste. Any chance I can replace Raw somewhere up those mountains?

Masse, if you can make it to the mountains of North Carolina, I will buy lunch for the whole group of us.

You bring a bottle of that delightful italian wine you keep bragging about, I'll bring a bottle of Patrone Tequila and we'll have "lunch" all night!

You all have strict orders to disengage. Post the time or post on-topic. Otherwise, it'll vanish. I don't want to see even theoretical speculation about killing other people from gt.

"Post the time"

Y'know, for someone who says she wants the bickering to stop, you seem to coddle to desires of one side. I have proven to my satisfaction that your favored li'l troll doll never intended to meet me and I was content to leave it at that.

Another of your comments (about Rawibs asking you to call him/her a murderer), in another forum:

"Well played, Raw"

...yeah, it really shows you want this to end.

I stand corrected and apologize, Qwey.

It probably was an iffy topic.

Qwey, upon further reflection on the topic, I would question whether the conversation should have been tagged.

Neither Raw nor I talked about ACTUALLY doing anything. (at least I was very careful to keep it in the theoretical realm)

I would suggest that there is little or no difference between our conversation and an RPG. Since this website was originally designed for conversations about gaming, what is the harm?

Must we discuss an established commercial game? Or can we have created our own text-based role playing adventure?

Hahah, rationalisation. But what makes you sure that Rawis wasn't serious?

"...yeah, it really shows you want this to end."

Hmm, care to quote me in full? No? Okay, I will.

• Raw: "You called me a murderer?!!!!! I think I'll pull a Masse and threaten to sue you!"

• Qwey: "Well played, Rawis. I think I'll pull a liane and huggle you, yarr." (life/86844320.htm)

Now, doesn't that make a joke of the whole threatening to sue business? If someone threatens to sue you and then you respond by threatening to hug them, I should think it would leave them at a loss for words. Well, I can't speculate about how Rawis took it or if he even saw my response, but I don't think he has talked about suing people since.

Allow me be so arrogant as to quote myself again.

• Homicide: "Its a pedophile. Maybe its WinterBorn" (note: you can't see this cuz I tagged it)

• Qwey: "Please stop calling Winterborn a pedo. It's dumb. /-:" (life/86878767.htm)

Qwey, I am at a loss for words. You asked me to do something which my stubbornness does not easily allow, and I obliged. You asked me to stop this with Rawibs as Masse and somebody else always had to clean up the mess.

If you don't understand how what you are doing makes me feel like a complete idiot for respecting you enough to initially oblige your request...then I really and honestly have no further use for you.

I cannot believe you would be so titillated by Rawibs as to dupe and make a fool of another reg....and to do so in Rawibs' favor is ridiculous.

"But what makes you sure that Rawis wasn't serious?"

If you were asked out on a date and given the calendar date and location but no time frame, how could anyone take you seriously if you don't ask WHAT TIME TO MEET?

Couple that with the cost of him/her driving 11 + hours to meet someone they supposedly hate and you have massive improbability of Rawibs being serious at all.

The time I had initially set was 4pm.

I'll still be there.

What's your reasoning, Qwey? Seriously, what the hell areyou thinking....and why have you chosen to make me look like a fool for trusting you?

Rawibs, how would you feel about moving the lunchdate to Thursday the 18th? More convenient for me.

"You asked me to do something which my stubbornness does not easily allow, and I obliged."

You call this :waves arms around this forum* and that *points to the Life forum* obliging? That's not what tagview says to me.

In any case, My first post here was not directed towards you. It was directed towards all involved here (hence "you all"). Of course, since there is nothing stopping Rawis from posting the time himself and asking if it's okay. I am not targeting you here. And in case you hadn't noticed, I tagged Rawis' posts, too.

Well you may have "no further use" for me, but hopefully, I'll still retain a purpose in this world.

Why dontcha check both frequency and times while you're at it? You asked, I toned it way down, then I THOUGHT I PUT A CAP ON IT. It was your words which have basically shown me you have no respect for me, and that you will continue to favor someone whom you said was causing trouble.

Tag away, you're being an ass anyway.

I dunno, I thought I had asked that, when someone starts calling you names, you report it in complaints or yell at me about it and it would get cleanly and surgically removed from the forum. Instead, you chose to respond.  *shrugs* well it's your choice when it's you who is being insulted, but please don't blame me and my alleged favouritism and coddling when Rawis continues to harass you as a result.

What exactly is it you wish I'd do to instead? Do you wish I would tag the insulting things he's saying? I'm already doing that, here and in Life. Do you wish I'd come out with a strong condemnation of Rawis and join you in these types of ridiculous discussions? Sorry, I have better things to do. There are people to see and walls o' text to write.

Rawis isn't stupid. Far from it. I think he can tell I don't agree with what he's saying about you, Winterborn, or Masse. I don't think he feels he can get away with murder with me. No, he can't even get away with just talking about hypothetical murder!

I don't know what more you require of me to show that I respect you than that I take care to respond to your ideas in World and don't make fun of you like I make fun of Tseng and that I tag the posts that insult you.

What makes me think raw wasn't serious?

Easy answer! Contrary to what most people claim, rawisbetter is neither an idiot nor a fool.

Masse...dammit, I apologize. I allowed myself to get my feelings hurt by Qwey's (apparently unintended) remarks...those which I felt directly opposed what I'd been asked to do. I'm not big on what I perceive to be betrayal...even on such a small scale. Truth be told, I allowed myself to forget a promise I'd made to someone I respect.

Qwey, yet again you and I see two completely different viewpoints on an issue. I interpreted our conversation differently, and I thought I was toning it down leading to an ending point quite nicely.

"What exactly is it you wish I'd do to instead?"

I wish you'd understand how your actions are perceived by others.

"Do you wish I would tag the insulting things he's saying?"

If it's aimed at me, no. if it's aimed at those less well equipped to defend themselves, sure.

"I don't know what more you require of me to show that I respect you than that I take care to respond to your ideas in World"

...which I of course appreciate, if you are being sincere. I take it you are sincere.

"...and don't make fun of you like I make fun of Tseng"

I believe you know how I feel about your choices to berate Tseng.

"...and that I tag the posts that insult you."

I'm not so concerned about posts which insult me. I can deal with them fine imo.

Winterborn... serious about wanting to. If you want, I'll untag your posts, but then you'll just look like you're going senile and talking to yourself.

Tek, I'm still not sure why you feel betrayed and feel that I had said something directly opposed what I had asked to do.

(And by the way, I would appreciate it if you would stop questioning whether I am sincere about things. As I've said before, it really annoys me. You know or should know that I hate sophistry. Suggesting I might be one is to me no better than suggesting I might be a nazi or a pedophile. Last time I brought it up, you said that you wouldn't second-guess me if I wouldn't act in a way that suggests I'm not being sincere, but I can hardly control how you perceive the things I say.)

Qwey, I am not going to look up sophistry. I would hope you take my own words in this thread as how I see you:

"I take it you are sincere."

I don't know how better to express myself here. I seem incapable of making myself clear to you using text, and I am admittedly 10,000 times easier to understand in person.

You apparently will not see what I see, nor I you. I don't know how to understand your relationship with Rawibs. I don't know how a person can encourage him/her. I despise his/her brand of cruelty.

Masse has asked me not to meet Rawibs. What is your standpoint?

What does it matter? You said you have no further use for me.

Suit yourself. I should have worded it better, but suit yourself.

God Dammit!

Never type while pissed off/hurt.

I guess this off-topic topic is finished.

Well, I see Qwey tagged my reply about how I tore up Tek on his "you are a wuss" argument. No matter, the people already knew that I accepted our first fight and that Tek lied about it. The people already knew that Tek left out the time on purpose and blamed me for not asking. They know how he makes up crap and cherrypicks the facts.

So Oct 17th, 4 pm? It's on!!!

"Rawibs, how would you feel about moving the lunchdate to Thursday the 18th? More convenient for me."

Let's see....make things easier for the guy who lied about me hesitating to accept the challenge when in fact it was the complete opposite. The guy who left out the time on purpose and then called me a wuss...........Gee, that's a tough one. Let me think..........................................No! Oct 17, 4 PM!!!

"then called me a wuss"

Wuss.

T-minus 1hr 38 minutes to launch...er...lunch.

just letting people know 2 of the 3 showed . looks like raw couldnt get a ride

We had a blast! I found out yesterday that Winterborn was possibly going to be able to come. We met up (I'd say eye-to-eye, but he's like 8 inches taller than me LOL) and had a few beers, some kickass 'gator tail, and a bunch of good laughs.

I wish you'd been there Rawibs...I really wanted to meet you and make another new friend. I'm disappointed, but c'est la vie.

Photo and a scanned receipt should be here within a day or two....Winterborn's got to get back to his computer and stuff before that can happen.

Excellent food, cold Guiness, and great company. Couldn't think of a better way to spend time.

Raw, I wish you coulda made it. Best seafood chowder I can recall. And the blackened gator to tops!

Send me the bill. Not for evidence, for paying it.

I had to argue with Tek to let me get the bill. Now you too?

I appreciate the sentiment Masse, but I have this one taken care of.

Gee, what a shock! No one showed up at 4! I was there for about 45 minutes. What the heII!!!

And yes, let's see that photo of "proof". Let me guess, it's two guys facing away from the camera and in the pic, you can clearly see that it's a Taco Bell that they are at.

It's been a day or two Tek. What's up?

LMAO!!!

No, we have receipts from the place for the beers we had first and the meal at the end.

I got there at 3:20pm and we left at 5:40pm.

I have a picture of the clock behind the bar showing 4:01, and then a picture of Tek and me with the same clock in the background showing 5:25.

Stop lying Raw, you didn't show.

Show the pic then.

Raw, you weren't there. Why not stop lying and admit it.

If you maintain that you were there and either Tek or I post a link to the pics, you will be shown to be a blatant liar.

This is sad. Like when a fish tries to flop back into the water but heads in the opposite direction.

How long 'till you get to a scanner, WinterBorn? (Just don't let Masse somehow try to pay lol)

What's up? I thought you guys had proof.....

lol

Raw, you are one of three people who actually needs no proof. Tek and I know we were there and you weren't. You know you weren't.

So why not admit you weren't there?

Hey teky show the proof if it really does exist. because it looks like you and the other guy made the story up on a instant messenger lol. kthx

Lol! Chuckle chuckle chuckle Lamo!Rofl!!!!I don't have to show you anything Derrrr

Just show the proof you and Tek claim you have.

This is no different than your bogus KKK story or all of my accusations towards you being a pedophile. You could prove me wrong but choose not to. Gee, that doesn't make you guilty at all.

Or I could be waiting and letting you keep saying you were there oer and over.

Then when I (or we) show proof you will look like an even bigger liar.

The funny thing is, raw, is that Tek and I talked about you showing up. As we enjoyed a couple of cold beers, we discussed how we could talk to you and try and get you to be a more civil person. It was never about a fight.

Pity you didn't show. It was a great time. Good company, cold beer and excellent food. When we do it again, you should come. I recommend the blackened gator. And try the seafood chowder, it is absolutely delicious.

Jesus man! Are you stalking me or something!? I mean everytime I come one here and reply, you always show up.

Look Forte....I mean Tek....I mean Arnold....I mean WinterBorn, you can sit there and spew out the same old story but it isn't nothing without proof.

So where is your proof, raw?

I don't have any. And I'd be an idiot to show proof to a guy who keeps hinting to sue me for accusing you of being a pedophile.

You and Tek say you have proof? Put up or shut up!

Oh I knew you didn't have any proof.

You can't prove something you didn't do.

And you didn't show up. But keep telling that same lie. It'll make it even funnier.

You must think I'm an idiot. Like I'm going to show a pic of me waiting to fight someone on the internet, to someone who threatens to sue over defimation of character? It's weasles like you that make this country a heII-hole.

And keep ignoring the fact that you said you have proof but refuse to show it.

Just like how you ignore any good point I make that makes you look bad.

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The first link shows me and Tek. That is the menu from the place in my hands. If you look you will see the clock reads 5:25

The second is a picture of the same clock showing 4:01.

The second link was taken when Tek showed up and we sat down for a cold beer. The second pic was taken before we left.

Tell us again that you were there, raw? Come on, you can tell that lie one more time.

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This reminds me of the time you gave a fake link to a photo that proves you aren't that pedophile that looks just like you in your yahoo profile. Then when I asked for a good link, you refused to give me one.

Ok, GameTalk apparently drops a letter in any url.

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I'll be back Monday!!!

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Remove the space between photo and bucket

Back monday? Convenient.

Be sure and keep telling us about you showing up.

No date? That fake yellow date on the photo means absolutley nothing. How do I know you two didn't meet on Thursday? Gotta do better than that. And what the heII Tek?! You are the true definition of an internet nerd.

In the meantime old man you should come on over to KingRaw!'s other turf. It's called www.conservativeschatroom.homestead.com

You can find me in the CCR Members Forum, but you have to register first. It's free.

This internet nerd had the balls to show. I'd rather be me than some pathetic puss who lies about showing up.

The receipt is in Winterborn's hands and is awaiting a scanner. He wouldn't let me pick up the bill. What are going to say when you are proved wrong? What are you going to say when you see the receipt? "IT WUZ PHOTOSHOPPED!!!//1Q/" No proof will ever meet your public satisfaction because you are lying to cover up your cowardice. You didn't avoid a fight, you avoided lunch. WHO THE HELL in their right mind is scared of lunch??? Oh. You.

I have been really interested in burying the hatchet with you. I had hoped you'd actually show up so you could see a human face behind the screen name.

I'd stop all this if I were you. You seem to care what people think of you.

Also, SINCE you claim to have been there, what other businesses are around Maggie's Galley? Hmmm? What's the area look like?

Look, no matter what you end up lying about next, as soon as the receipt is scanned and posted, you and I are done. It will be the last bit to this sad dance.

You really disappointed me, not showing up.

This is me, disappointed :)

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I'm siding with KingRaw on this one: if I don't see a receipt where I can read the total so that I can take care of it, all it amounts to is that I have now a very nice pic to use as a desktop. Do you guys buy your glasses from the same seller or do they come standard like that in the USA?

:P

Mine are Transitions™ which are the dark-in-the-sun-but-light-inside-the-house kind and I bought them at Walmart. No clue about WinterBorn.

And good luck paying the bill, Masse...I tried to talk Winter out of paying and he looked like I'd kicked him in the sore spot, lol.

I think all we are waiting on is the availability of a scanner. I'm trying to get him to fax me a photocopy of the receipt now.

:)

Don't get into a 'proving frenzy'. Doubting ThomasRaw here has already shown that he won't accept anything as proof. Which was to be expected anyway. Next time you set up a lunch date, please remember to bring a public notary along.

Yeah, I've already tried a couple of times to suggest that WinterBorn let me take care of the bill, but he seems to take that as the ultimate insult.

It's a southern thing which seems to have spread to Italy. I may have $20 to my name, but if I have a visitor, by god that $20 is going to feed them and quench their thirst. If I tried to refuse money from my grandmother for the same sort of dinner, she would never forgive me. With our case, now Winterborn can't refuse to let me pay NEXT time.

I'm just going to show the receipt and be done with it....whether it's today or next week.

I wish you'd been there, Rawibs. We could have been laughing about all this by now. :(

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Ok raw, there are my two receipts from Maggies Galley. One is for two beers apiece, and the other is for the meal we each enjoyed.

The receipts show the date and time.

Tell us again that you were there?

Raw, don't forget to remove the space between photo and bucket.

Masse, I am not insulted at all. I appreciate the gesture. But you didn't get to enjoy the meal, the drinks, or the company. Why should you have to pay the tab?

As I said before, when you get to come and join in, I will let you pick up the tab.

I was planning to pick up the tab anyway. I was even going to buy raw's beers and meal.

Make sure you remove the space between the words 'photo' and 'bucket', Rawibs.

Much obliged, WinterBorn!

Because I enjoyed much more than that. I enjoyed the pleasure of seeing two beloved people meet and have a good time through Gametalk and with a little 'pressure' on my part. Which makes my staying around for the last few years worthwhile.

But if you feel that your Southerner's habits would be offended by my insisting, I take you up on your offer: I'll pay on that occasion when we finally meet. Be it in Italy or in the USA or anywhere else, I owe you that next lunch. Even if it takes years to set it up.

Masse, it's settled...my girlfriend is studying operatic singing and Italy would be a perfect place to further that passion. (She's developing an already gorgeous soprano voice) If it takes me years, I'll be there!

17:38 and 16:49?

If I know my military times then that means the times were 4:49 and 5:38. I was there from "3:45 to 4:30"

Strange.....

That's right. People don't take time to eat...especially if they are meeting for the first time in person. No conversation....and CERTAINLY no time to wait FOR THE EFFING FOOD TO BE COOKED.

You're really flailing badly now. Stop before you swallow your tongue.

You are also saying that we :

A) Went to the restaurant on a different day just to get a shot of the clock at 4:01 one one of us later

B) Came back to the restaurant on the date of the lunch later than you.

C) Did so out of fear, despite the two of us being much larger than you.

This is hilarious. You fumble almost as badly as Herr 'Dubya' Bush.

That's right. People don't take time to eat...especially if they are meeting for the first time in person. No conversation....and CERTAINLY no time to wait FOR THE EFFING FOOD TO BE COOKED.

May I point out that you could have met on an EARLIER day, taken the photos and then came back and hurried up and paid your bill.

C) Did so out of fear, despite the two of us being much larger than you.

Larger doesn't mean better. Fat people don't stand a chance against someone who works out and knows how to fight.

I had no intention of fighting you, that's why I chose a very public place. I only fight in self defense.

Really man, you could've had a good time. WinterBorn is an easygoing guy. What good would an assault charge done either one of us?

Tek you are right Winter is easy going we have been together 6 yrs and i have seen him lose it one time. It would take more than raw to make him lose it .

Hey help me breath life into this forum.

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yo tek if you called some guy to back you up in a fight why the hell did you date him man??? are you gay or something??? men date women. (unless its perfectly normal for 2 men to meet in the internet and decide to have peaceful lunch together getting to know each other better)

maybe i should print the photos and take them to the clerk in that motel nearby the dinner and ask her if she saw these guys rent a room, lol

No raw, you were not there between 3:45 and 4:30.

I have already posted a picture of the clock showing 4:01. Now, I am sure you claim that just anyone could go behind the bar and adjust the time on the clock in full view of everyone, but that isn't reality, now is it?

The check paid at 16:49 was for a few beers while we waited for you to show up. Then we ordered our food and enjoyed our meal.

Why don't you tell us all what the place looked like?

blackcat, maybe in your world all social contact is sexual. But two guys getting together for a few beers and a meal is not a strange event for grownups.

ok, you dated a male stranger for completely heterosexual reasons.

now why did he choose that piece of crap, is completely beyond me. even a mcdonals would have been better.

i can only guess that you were really desperate for sea food.

We dated? Wow, thats a stretch.

And the food was outstanding. They serve some of the best seafood chowder I have ever had, and the blackened gator was excellent.

Raw, neither Tek nor I had any intention of fighting you. The only way there would have been a fight is that you physically attacked one of us. And I woulda put you in the hospital if you had done that.

Just a tip for you, if you want to play like you are a badass, you have to actually SHOW UP!

the food looked just like any other sea food ive tried. plus there ive eaten in places that arent greasy and tiny.

Are you saying that you have eaten at Maggie's Galley?

I like how the one coming out of nowhere to defend Rawibs' honor is the one screaming "You are teh Gayz0rz!!!".

"(unless its perfectly normal for 2 men to meet in the internet and decide to have peaceful lunch together getting to know each other better)"

It is. I don't live in fear like SOME people. I actually enjoy AND am able to make new friends.

"maybe i should print the photos and take them to the clerk in that motel nearby the dinner"

A) It was a restaurant, which is neither a 'dinner' nor a 'diner'.

B) What motel is that, btw?

"the food looked just like any other sea food ive tried."

Do I really have to point out how stupid you sound?

"plus there ive eaten in places that arent greasy and tiny."

Try usig your words, big fellah.

Ha

using

Fact!- WinterBorn and Tek met on a different date, had lunch and then made a fake reciept. I was there on time. Think about it. Fat internet geek...Guy who showed up late for our last fight. Now tell me It's completley out of the question.

On another note....

Hey guys, come on over to my new home. It's called www.conservativeschatroom.homestead.com

You have to register first. Don't worry, it's free and people flame me all the time so don't take that legal actions part seriously unless you pull a KingRaw!/WinterBorn. You can find me in the CCR members area. You might like me there. I'm a liberal on that site. It wouldn't be fun to agree with everyone about how Bill Clinton is a sex offender and Al Gore is just as bad as Bin Laden.

Fact? More like you making excuses.

I posted pictures and scanned receipts. You just made baseless claims.

Even Qwey, your most ardent defender doesn't buy your lies. Come on raw, confess that you never showed up.

The truth will set you free.

FACT- Rawibs has provided NO proof, NO attempt at proof, AND has given wrong information(besides his/her normal lies) about the businesses surrounding said restaurant.

Where's your proof, Rawibs? You didn't even take a picture with your face blurred out, YOU have no receipt, and YOU...really missed out on a good time.

I wanted to meet you. I wanted to make peace. Even if you were that kid we passed in the parking lot, the one who looked at us kinda weird, the one who I said "Hey" to...even if that was you, you made no attempt to let that be known. Plus that was at like 5:40-ish when we were leaving. You never described yourself so that we'd know who you are.

You have no proof. You do have a history of lying here, plus a history of purposely antagonizing people even if it means arguing a side you don't believe in.

It seems even Homicide doesn't think you were there:

"Then why do you keep replying to him? Thats it! End of thread."

End. Of. Thread. Just let this go, make some freinds....it won't hurt, I promise.

I posted pictures and scanned receipts. You just made baseless claims.

You took old or early photos and scanned fake reciepts. Plain and simple.

Even Qwey, your most ardent defender doesn't buy your lies. Come on raw, confess that you never showed up.

Qwey admitted that fake reciepts were possible.

FACT- Rawibs has provided NO proof, NO attempt at proof, AND has given wrong information(besides his/her normal lies) about the businesses surrounding said restaurant.

I don't post proof to weasles that threaten to sue over the dumbest things and there is an Eco water systems building by Maggies along with a pizza hut and a burger king. But I was only there for an hour. I don't remember all the names of places in some dump like North Carolina.

I wanted to meet you. I wanted to make peace. Even if you were that kid we passed in the parking lot, the one who looked at us kinda weird, the one who I said "Hey" to...even if that was you, you made no attempt to let that be known. Plus that was at like 5:40-ish when we were leaving. You never described yourself so that we'd know who you are.

And you won't. And you messed with some kid on Tuesday? What's that say about you tubsy?

You have no proof. You do have a history of lying here, plus a history of purposely antagonizing people even if it means arguing a side you don't believe in.

Prove I lied before.

"I don't post proof to weasles that threaten to sue over the dumbest things and there is an Eco water systems building by Maggies along with a pizza hut and a burger king."

You're still missing the BIG business RIGHT next to Maggies Galley. Google is apparently not helping you with that.

"And you messed with some kid on Tuesday? What's that say about you tubsy?"

'Hey' in the south means 'hello', idiot. We didn't 'mess' with anybody....or do even greetings frighten you?

"Prove I lied before."

Prove you were there ever.

This is pathetic, man. I want you to relax about this whole thing. just chill, realize that a handshake is not poison, and understand that an olive branch is not deadly. Don't you have any friends?

Lol, this is actually quite amusing.

You can't dodge bullets forever, raw.

LOL, there are no big business next to maggies

"'Hey' in the south means 'hello', idiot. We didn't 'mess' with anybody....or do even greetings frighten you?"

Really? All you two said was hey? WinterBorn challenges people he thinks are kids to real life fights and all he and you said was hey? Not buying it fatty.

"Prove I lied before."

Prove you were there ever.

Can't. Like I said before that would be dumb of me to show proof of that to douches that try to sue people for the dumbest things. Quit going around in circles Tek. Show proof of me lying.

"You're still missing the BIG business RIGHT next to Maggies Galley."

I really don't recall but thanks for the google idea. I'll just go on there now.

So a large Eckerds does not count? Not even the fact that it dwarfs Maggies Galley in size? AND that it is the only business right next to the restaurant? What about the seafood restaurant next to it?

You guys are freakin retarded.

Rawibs you never had any intention of showing, you have no proof you were ever even near there, you have now openly admitted you have no proof and no forthcoming proof, and your justification for not having proof is a conversation you had with Masse and Winterborn...not me.

I guess your fear of people renders you unable to make friends. I'm sorry things are like this for you. I can't imagine what you feel like, but I can feel empathy for you. I hope things go better....I hope you learn to open up to people. I wanted to meet you. Best of luck to you.

Reread what Qwey said about "fake receipts". She was making fun of your spelling. She likened the chances of me posting fake receipts with the chances of Mossad agents taking over the restaurant.

Raw, you were NOT there. And no one beieves you were.

Raw, there is an easy way to prove it. Just show us a single receipt or photo.

I never threatened to sue you. I only pointed out that you COULD be sued to posts such as you made.

Funny how the lawsuit conversations never bothered you until you needed an excuse not to post proof.

BTW, just outside the front door there was a sign with an arrow. What does it say?

Blah blah blah. All you're doing is running around in circles. Do I have to repeat myself yet again?

No, there is no need to repeat yourself.

Just (as you love to say) put up or shutup. Show us proof or admit you didn't show.

You expect us to believe that you went all the way to NC for to FIGHT someone, but are afraid to post a pic or receipt as proof because you might get sued?

lol

Same old shit.

Yep, same old shit you have said to me for over a year.

Come on raw, be a man and show some proof.

Prove you were there with a real date and time.

Anything I post will only be called a fake, with absolutely no evidence to show it.

I have posted pictures showing both of us and the clock. I have posted a receipt showing the date and time.

You have just posted protests that you were there.

Show something to dispute my evidence.

"Prove you were there with a real date and time."

Enlighten us, Rawibs. Were we supposed to hire a notary? What would you consider a 'real date and time' and how would you prove it?

I know YOU are unable to provide ANY evidence at all, but what is it you are asking for?

(I hope life treats you better, btw. I hope you can find happiness somehow.)

Real proof you say? It doesn't take a police detective to figure it out. How bout a video tape on Youtube that proves the date and time. DUH!

"Show something to dispute my evidence."

Faking a reciept. Taking pics on a different day. We've been over this guys. Only proves how guilty you are...

And I've explained why I don't show proof. Masse theatened to sue me. You hinted towards it Hicks! That's right! I know your name!!!!

You have whined and disputed our evidence based on nothing. We have presented evidence and all you have done is try and think of a way to save face.

I doubt anyone believes you, Johnson.

What a shock! When I think of a bulletproof way to prove you were there on time, you go back to square 1. And the jokes on you Hick. That name is fake.

And the information you have is worthless. Unless you have my full name (which is not what the email listed), you have nothing.

But it does sorta blow your "Arnold" nonsense out of the water, doesn't it.

But, and I will only ask once, please refrain from posting my name (however limited) on these public forums.

Too bad you didn't have the balls to go over to my conservative chat site. Oh well, I kicked their asses all by myself. Katarina never shows up and Speedo ignores me. Xhin showed up but it was too late.

But, and I will only ask once, please refrain from posting my name (however limited) on these public forums.

Let me guess. If I don't, you'll press charges against me. I wonder why I never show you proof of anything...

Sorta paranoid about the lawsuit thing, aren't you?

No, I will complain and have the information removed, thereby chopping up the threads again.

Refrain from posting my name and we can continue arguing. Your trolling depends on better participation.

The idea of watching you pretend to be liberal is about as appealing as a root canal. I have seen you pretend to be a conservative, so I can imagine what your pretending to be a liberal would be.

oooooo, hiding behind your rules and friendship with Masse the mod. That sounds like a guy that really showed up on time.

The idea of watching you pretend to be liberal is about as appealing as a root canal. I have seen you pretend to be a conservative, so I can imagine what your pretending to be a liberal would be.

I gave you the link. Not even looking at it proves how intimidated you are.

I have SHOWN you that I was there. You have just made wild claims.

I am not hiding behind a friendship with a mod. I am asking that you not post my name.

But its funny, you are paranoid about lawsuits, don't show up for physical confrontations, and now say that I am "hidig behind rules". Basically you just try and ridicule anyone who doesn't cater to your wants. yep, that sounds like a mature decision by a good debator.

Is it that you WONT give us proof, or is it because you CAN'T?

My bet's on the latter until you prove me wrong.

I have SHOWN you that I was there. You have just made wild claims.

You showed us that you can show up to a place without proof of the date. I wouldn't call that wild.

I am not hiding behind a friendship with a mod. I am asking that you not post my name.

You just said you'd complain to have it removed. And who would do that? Oh gee, I know this one. Asse?

But its funny, you are paranoid about lawsuits...

Did you not bring up the possibillity of pressing charges against me? Did Masse not threaten to sue me over what I say about you?

don't show up for physical confrontations, and now say that I am "hidig behind rules

Oh Jesus Christ. Here we go again. I showed up on time. You didn't. Your lack of proof of a date shows that. That fat bastard fits the perfect description of an internet geek that'd make a fake reciept.

Go over to that conservative chat site if you want to see me be a good debator. But you won't because you're afraid of what you'll find. I already proved how much of a coward you are here. Just think what I'd do to a smart person.

Is it that you WONT give us proof, or is it because you CAN'T?

Another example of how people keep going around in circles. I refuse to show my proof because Stonemage and Masse brought up and threatened to sue me over flaming!

The receipt is not fake , there is a date stamp on the picture that was taken on 10/17 (I have proof of where I was all that week (training records), and the time is in the pictures (see the clock?)

I think Geemel is evidence that no one believes you, junior. I think you chickened out and don't want anyone to know you are a coward.

I'll be teaching a couple of classes in Sarasota either this month or next month. I'll let you know when I can buy you dinner at Catfish Country. lmao

The receipt is not fake , there is a date stamp on the picture that was taken on 10/17 (I have proof of where I was all that week (training records), and the time is in the pictures (see the clock?)

Oh the receipt isn't fake because you said so? Like we all know it's impossible for Tek to make a fake one. And that date stamp proves nothing. Anyone can put a 10-17 stamp on a photo.

I think Geemel is evidence that no one believes you, junior. I think you chickened out and don't want anyone to know you are a coward.

Gemmel once sided with HateCena that not eating meat will kill you. And I think you chickened out at Maggies and Catfish. Proves why you can't back it up with hard evidence.

I'll be teaching a couple of classes in Sarasota either this month or next month. I'll let you know when I can buy you dinner at Catfish Country. lmao

Let me know old man...

I think its hilarious that you keep protesting the validity of the receipt. You have absolutely no evidence to show it is fake. The only reason you have for even saying it is that it proves you were a coward and lied.

I will let you know. It'll be another opportunity to meet you face to face.

And you can see my face (which you already have in the pics) and recant your "WinterBorn is Arnold" statements. (which I notice you have not done)

I think its hilarious that you keep protesting the validity of the receipt. You have absolutely no evidence to show it is fake. The only reason you have for even saying it is that it proves you were a coward and lied.

Not true, I showed up on time unlike you. Faking a receipt is not out of the question.

Now which is the more likely, that two people would get together, change settings on a camera, take the time to create a fake receipt, go to a restaurant on a different day, and create a long story about it?

Or that one person, who has given virtually no personal info out, and lied about their age, would lie about whether or not they showed up?

Tell us this, Raw, when you walked towards the front door from the parking lot there was a sign that pointed to the side of the building. What did the sign say? If you were there you wouldn't have missed it.

Now which is the more likely, that two people would get together, change settings on a camera, take the time to create a fake receipt, go to a restaurant on a different day, and create a long story about it?

Have you seen Tek?

Or that one person, who has given virtually no personal info out, and lied about their age, would lie about whether or not they showed up?

Prove I lied about my age.

And I don't remember what a stupid sign says. I was there for almost an hour. I barely remember anything.

You didn't see the sign? It was out away from the door and VERY noticeable.

Id' say you weren't there if you didn't notice it.

But tell us what the front of the building looks like? Its a simple question. Brick? Siding? Wood? As a construction worker I would think that you notice the basics of what a building is made of. Tell us all about the entrance.

Y'know, I have a bette idea:

Because Raw apparently doesn't know how to read a map, or he's to cowardly to come to you guys, why not let HIM pick the next place?

Apparently, if he has such a problem with your schedules, let him make one, and have you find him.

That way, if he doesn't show at the correct place at the correct time, it can only mean it's his fault.

But somebody take pictures/video whatev. So we can all just avoid this on-going rabble.

The sadness of Raw-ibs' existence here continues. I really feel bad for him. This is getting as pathetic as a Cupola rant.

.................................................. I don't know very much about computers, Rawibs. You pointed that out to me yourself when I pasted a link containing my TGT info. Not bloody likely I can fake a receipt or a pic and make it believable, is it?

You would dispute a video also. You planned to A) not show up and B) dispute any proof we left. It is evident you did this from the beginning.

You're right about two things though. You called me a fat bastard.

1) It's obvious I'm fat...pointing it out shows how badly you are flailing for a way to hurt me. If I have the balls to put my own photo on the web, you might want to realize my weight isn't going to razz me. I sleep with a woman in my bed every night. Do you?

2) I actually am a bastard. Not in the born-out-of-wedlock sense...but I grew up without a father. See, I watched him die when I was 6 years old. It's pretty much the earliest and clearest childhood memory I have. I slept in the living room. Dad would come out at night for a drink or two and a midnight meal. I watched him go into the kitchen. I saw him make his drink. I heard him, I saw his face as he fell backwards. He was 6'3" and my same size. He hit the ground of our apartment and it made a sound so loud that I turned against the wall and just kept saying,"He's not dead. He's not dead! He's not dead!" I heard Mom come out of the bedroom. I turned as she screamed. I watched her frantically trying to give him CPR. I don't remember her calling 911, but I remember them showing up. I remember the man with black hair looking at my mother with a face that said "This man isn't coming back." Then I was taken downstairs to a neighbor's apartment. I even remember some of the toys they sent down with me.

Dad was such an alcoholic that he never even spilled his drink. He held it in his hand...on the floor...where he layed after his massive heart attack. They said he died before he hit the ground.

Raw-ibs, I don't know who made you hate yourself so much. I don't know who made you hate other people. I don't know who it is who made you able to lie and not feel bad about it. I just feel sorry for you. I really do.

Don't give up on yourself or on people around you. That's the pussies' way out. Be a man.

You pussies keep saying the same old shit. I showed and you didn't. End of story. Geemel has a good idea. Catfish again!!!

You never answered my question. Funny how that is so typical. You demand answers and when you don't get them you say that proves your point. But you fail to answer questions on a regular basis. Doesn't that prove my point?