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Peace - Now for Everyone!

An Open Discussion about Peace. Share Your Wisdom!

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Posted by: WinterBorn
Dec 18, 2007  (150 days and 11 hours ago)
GameTalk isn't big enough for the both of us - revisited

I guess I fail to see what rule was violated by the thread raw started.

In case raw missed my response, no I am not willing to join in your bizarre idea.

But I will make you a counter-challenge.

Lets leave all the BS behind us and move forward. We can debate, but no bringing up any of the old topics we have rehashed so many times.

Starting January 1st, 2008, which ever of us brings up any of those old topics (or participates in the discussion if someone else brings them up), that person will leave GameTalk for good.

We can both stick to the topics. If we start personal insults and bringing up old topics, then we leave for good.

Can you handle a challenge that requires something from you?

There are 75 Replies:
Message Person and Time

It didn't violate a rule but Famov is just stupid so he reported it, and so a stupid mod (kiwibaby nonetheless) tagged it.

And why not? Are you afraid of getting booted off of GT?

ampy
Dec 18, 2007
(150 days and 9 hours ago)

WinterBorn, you called a truce between us and when I exposed Tek for being a snob, you jumped back in again and we talked about the same old shit.

Why are you afraid of my challenge? I thought everyone was on your side.....

KingRaw!
Dec 18, 2007
(150 days and 8 hours ago)

no I am not willing to join in your bizarre idea.

So holding an election to see which one of us leaves Gametalk is bizzare?

KingRaw!
Dec 18, 2007
(150 days and 8 hours ago)

Raw, I offered a truce. You absolutely did not go along wioth it.

I do not really care whether people are on my side. I am no concerned with the opinions of most people.

Two reasons I dislike your contest:

#1 - I am not basing any of my life or my actions on a popularity contest.

#2 - If we are going to have one of us leave, why wait until next November? Just for an overblown sense of drama and to drag out the nonsense?

No, lets go for January first and the truce.

WinterBorn
Dec 18, 2007
(150 days and 8 hours ago)

The only particular rule I was thinking of was the unspoken one about perpetuating BS.

Just remember that Rawisbetter is a TROLL which means he gets off by doing this. I'm still debating with myself if I'm going to appeal to some higher powers on this site to make a clean sweep of Peace and ban Raw from it since he apparantly is the only troll I know hindered by name bans.

Famov
Dec 18, 2007
(150 days and 8 hours ago)

Famov, my main basis for all this is that while raw is arguing with me he is not trolling anywhere else.

WinterBorn
Dec 18, 2007
(150 days and 8 hours ago)

Another election that if held and goes against Raw will have something about it that makes the result null and void when it goes against Raw.

Basically, one of you needs to grow up and the other needs to act their age.

Simple answer is that whichever one of you brings up stuff from time gone by, they shall receive a 1 week ban from the forum. And persistant dragging up of the past will see the ban increase by 1 week for each offence. Over time, if you've brought something up for a 5th time, you get a 5 week ban.

Though that'd only work with a mod in the forum.

PJH
Dec 19, 2007
(149 days and 17 hours ago)

Ok, I promise I will grow up.

WinterBorn
Dec 19, 2007
(149 days and 12 hours ago)

Raw, I offered a truce. You absolutely did not go along wioth it.

Wrong. Go back and look. I ignored you but you kept sticking your nose in me and Tek's little war and brought up the same old stuff.

#1 - I am not basing any of my life or my actions on a popularity contest.

Yes....coming to Gametalk is such a big deal.....You sure'd be risking it all.

#2 - If we are going to have one of us leave, why wait until next November? Just for an overblown sense of drama and to drag out the nonsense?

Drama which you don't mind bringing up, going around in circles with and keeping alive.

No, lets go for January first and the truce.

No, you broke our truce before.

Just remember that Rawisbetter is a TROLL which means he gets off by doing this.

That's right boys and girls! I get sexually aroused by arguing and embarrassing idiots...... And WinterBorn and Tek aren't trolls?

I'm still debating with myself if I'm going to appeal to some higher powers on this site to make a clean sweep of Peace and ban Raw from it since he apparantly is the only troll I know hindered by name bans.

ooooooooooooooo, I'm soooooo scared Famov. You don't like me? Suck it up.

Famov, my main basis for all this is that while raw is arguing with me he is not trolling anywhere else.

Yep, I'm not trolling Tek, Forte, Tseng, Angelika, LightningRunner, idiots in the wrestling forum......

Another election that if held and goes against Raw will have something about it that makes the result null and void when it goes against Raw.

Wrong PJH. I wouldn't do that. And if you bring up the Masse scandle, then I'll just REMIND you that he AGREED to my terms and broke 2 rules the next day and banned me!

Simple answer is that whichever one of you brings up stuff from time gone by, they shall receive a 1 week ban from the forum. And persistant dragging up of the past will see the ban increase by 1 week for each offence. Over time, if you've brought something up for a 5th time, you get a 5 week ban.

I'll assume you're talking about pedophile accusations, Catfish, Maggies, my age etc.....I'll let you know when TekMage brings them up again in other forums too.

Before I go WinterBorn just hear me out. I will leave forever if I lose the "bizzare" election. We know what you and I have done in the past so what's the problem with a poll? A poll that the people of the internet will decide! No effort for you at all! Why pass off this offer?

KingRaw!
Dec 19, 2007
(149 days and 10 hours ago)

What's your e-mail PJH?

KingRaw!
Dec 19, 2007
(149 days and 10 hours ago)

Raw, your response to my offfer was NOT an acceptance.

I am not going to decide where I go online based on a popularity contest. That is ridiculous.

Polls are worthless.

WinterBorn
Dec 19, 2007
(149 days and 8 hours ago)

1., I agree with PJH. This is getting repetetive.

2., Famov- the sooner you get that ban, the better.

3., Winterborn- Give up on Raw, he probably enjoys your attempts to get him to have a fair and straight argument, only to refuse and go around it, dragging you with him.

Geemel
Dec 20, 2007
(148 days and 12 hours ago)

If I were going to follow popular opinion, I think there are more people wishing I would stop arguing with raw than there are people wishing I would leave.

But I think we have about exhausted the depths of our debates. I think I am going to avoid any contact except the debates on topics.

Jeez, so much fun left to be had.

WinterBorn
Dec 20, 2007
(148 days and 11 hours ago)

Raw, your response to my offfer was NOT an acceptance.

That's because your's was lame. You would end up breaking the rules and instead of "leaving forever", you'd find some hidden rule that actually means you didn't violate anything. Mine is very simple. let the people decide who stays.

I am not going to decide where I go online based on a popularity contest. That is ridiculous.

No, making it look like Gametalk is a big part of your life is ridiculous. Presidential elections are a popularity contest. Are they ridiculous too?

Polls are worthless.

No they aren't. It's a very effective way to get information and opinions from people. Or are you just angry about the main ages of the users here or who won the popularity contests between Me Tek and You?

1., I agree with PJH. This is getting repetetive.

Then don't come in our threads.

2., Famov- the sooner you get that ban, the better.

On you? Good because no one likes cowards that lie and take cheapshots at people and run away.

3., Winterborn- Give up on Raw, he probably enjoys your attempts to get him to have a fair and straight argument, only to refuse and go around it, dragging you with him.

Give an example of when I wasn't fair or strait and ran away from the argument?

KingRaw!
Dec 20, 2007
(148 days and 11 hours ago)

What's the big deal WinterBorn? You don't have to do anything.

KingRaw!
Dec 20, 2007
(148 days and 11 hours ago)

Raw, what part of "I am not basing any decisions on a popularity contest" is unclear to you?

No, I am not agreeing to that nonsense.

Why not accept my challenge? It does require you to do something in a sense. You have to actually control what you post.

WinterBorn
Dec 20, 2007
(148 days and 11 hours ago)

Raw, what part of "I am not basing any decisions on a popularity contest" is unclear to you?

No, I am not agreeing to that nonsense.

So we fight in real life but a poll is out of the question!

Why not accept my challenge? It does require you to do something in a sense. You have to actually control what you post.

None of us can do that and we'd end up both going back on our word and you know it.

KingRaw!
Dec 20, 2007
(148 days and 11 hours ago)

WinterBorn. My best advice is that you just ignore him. He is not going to walk away, and let anything drop; so it will fall to you to be the man. Ignore him, and he will go away.

Mizz Mew
Dec 20, 2007
(148 days and 9 hours ago)

You know it's funny how everyone treats WinterBorn like some victim by me. He is a troll too along with Tek, Geemel, Miz and Aero.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 12 hours ago)

I have never claimed to be a victim.

But your trolling is different from what I do. You seek to antagonize everyone and start conflict.

I simply give YOU a hard time.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 10 hours ago)

Then let's end it in an entertaining way. Do you really want our feud to end in a lame way like it's heading right now?

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 10 hours ago)

I am here to entertain ME.

Yo may as well hang this one up. I have never based my actions on popularity. I am certainly not starting now.

Want it to end? Thats easy, just stop. I will still argue with you on topics, but there is no need for personal attacks.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 10 hours ago)

You see raw, there is something else you need to learn.

As a troll you have basically overstayed your welcome. Have you noticed you aren't getting the reactions you once did?

Without me (and Tek) arguing with you, you become a footnote in Gametalk history.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 10 hours ago)

I am here to entertain ME.

You may as well hang this one up. I have never based my actions on popularity. I am certainly not starting now.

Wuss. That's all there is to say about that.

You see raw, there is something else you need to learn.

As a troll you have basically overstayed your welcome. Have you noticed you aren't getting the reactions you once did?

Without me (and Tek) arguing with you, you become a footnote in Gametalk history.

Talk about massive egos. I'm getting the same reactions I got for the past 17 months and I have a cult following.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 6 hours ago)

Its funny, you didn't get the reaction you wanted when you continually posted your "Tek looks down on wrestling" threads.

And in the last 17 months you have been banned from a few places.

When people talk about our arguments, they tell me to ignore you or give up on you, and they call you a troll.

The majority of what you are known for is your arguments with me and with Tek. Very few remember your attacks on the 14 year old, because he stopped.

Cult following? Lmao, I have seen what follows you. If you are proud of that then you should work on raising your standards. Anyone impressed with harrassment and trolling is far too eaily impressed.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 5 hours ago)

Ok, lets finish this thread here.

You think I am an old wuss. You think Tek is a fat snob. Ok, thats fine with me. And I don't think Tek is particularly broken up about it.

We both think you are a sad little troll with some serious inferiority issues.

Have I about covered it?

I am not going along with your stupid challenge. Move on to something new and rational.

Otherwise, its all just yada yada yada, blah blah blah.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 5 hours ago)

Its funny, you didn't get the reaction you wanted when you continually posted your "Tek looks down on wrestling" threads.

They all agreed that he's a jerk and or a snob for saying that. The problem is they don't like to pick fights. The message got across.

And in the last 17 months you have been banned from a few places.

More like over 30. At least half of them were uncalled for.

When people talk about our arguments, they tell me to ignore you or give up on you, and they call you a troll.

That's because you're the 47 year old guy. You are supossed to "know better". They hate me and don't care about you. Who's side do you think they'll take?

Cult following? Lmao, I have seen what follows you. If you are proud of that then you should work on raising your standards. Anyone impressed with harrassment and trolling is far too eaily impressed.

Really? Being funny and attacking idiots and losers is something to be ashamed of? Please, I'm the only entertaining guy here!

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 5 hours ago)

You're one to talk about being rational.....

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 5 hours ago)

"They all agreed that he's a jerk and or a snob for saying that. The problem is they don't like to pick fights."

Don't be ridiculous. More people said you were being stupid for posting that than said Tek was a snob. The poll you started in the Wrestling forum showed that you are lying. 33% said they were entitled to their own opinion. Only 8% said they were snobs. 25% said they were entitled to their own opinion but were acting like snobs. Even if you add the two "snob" answers together, it only adds up to 33%. So the best you have is a tie. More lies?

Or more yada yada yada blah blah blah?

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 5 hours ago)

Don't be ridiculous. More people said you were being stupid for posting that than said Tek was a snob.

But when I went one on one with them, they all agreed that he was a snob for saying that. And you are only talking about the ones on Gametalk where most people have a raw-bias towards me. I went on other sites and asked the very same question and people told me that he's a jerk for saying that.

And for someone who said that "polls are worthless", you sure do like making a case towards me based on one. Remember, that forum hates me too and two other choices were joke choices. People really didn't care about it that much in that thread.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

The poll was in the WRESTLING forum, and you couldn't get a majority to agree with you.

I think that hardly justifies your statement of:

"They all agreed that he's a jerk and or a snob for saying that."

But regardless of all of that. You made a challenge and I said no. That pretty much ends it. I made a challenge and you refused to accept it. So we have a stalemate.

Time for a new topic.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

The poll was in the WRESTLING forum, and you couldn't get a majority to agree with you.

Polls are worthless.

Make up your mind! You already ignored my other claim about the other sites.

But regardless of all of that. You made a challenge and I said no. That pretty much ends it. I made a challenge and you refused to accept it. So we have a stalemate.

You said no first to my easy challenge. I was returning the favor to your challenge that would result in controversy and technicallities.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

Raw, when you didn't even get half of the people in a forum dedicated to wrestling to agree with you, then no matter where else you posted, your statement of "they all agree" was just a lie. That is simply a fact.

I didn't say the poll had any worth. I am simply saying that it proves your statement of "they ALL agree" as flat out wrong.

And if you are going with "you said no first" do you realize how childish that sounds?

Ok, so I refused your challenge first. Cool. I was first. And I am standing by it.

Npow, is there anything else that we haven't hashed and rehashed? Or are we done here?

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

Raw, when you didn't even get half of the people in a forum dedicated to wrestling to agree with you, then no matter where else you posted, your statement of "they all agree" was just a lie. That is simply a fact.

And what part of "that forum hates me" don't you get? Any wrestling fan would think Tek is a jerk for his comment. That is simply a fact.And the half of the "yes he is a snob" are the half that don't hold a grudge against me.

I didn't say the poll had any worth. I am simply saying that it proves your statement of "they ALL agree" as flat out wrong.

If it's worthless then it can't prove anything. If it could, then it would be worth something wouldn't it?

And if you are going with "you said no first" do you realize how childish that sounds?

Comparing my behavior to a childs?

Hey, I tried to start new topics with you like that Neo-con website, but as I recall you had "no comment"

What about my childrens aid bill? You wouldn't give a clear answer and you brought up Maggies.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

I said your statement sounded childish. I did not call you a child.

When you say "they all agree", you were wrong. They didn't ALL agree. maybe you found a lot who did agree on another website. Maybe even MOST agreed. But obviously not ALL. The reason they don't agree is irrelevant.

I said I didn't have an opinion on whether the website was fair. And I still don't.

I expressed my opinion on your children's aid bill. First of all, its not a bill that would even begin to pass. And secondly I don't think taxes should be raised.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

When you say "they all agree", you were wrong. They didn't ALL agree. maybe you found a lot who did agree on another website. Maybe even MOST agreed. But obviously not ALL. The reason they don't agree is irrelevant.

They do agree, they're just too stubborn to admit it.

I said I didn't have an opinion on whether the website was fair. And I still don't.

Proving that you don't want to talk about new topics.

I expressed my opinion on your children's aid bill. First of all, its not a bill that would even begin to pass. And secondly I don't think taxes should be raised.

Even if it saves starving childrens lives?

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

Lmao!! They are just too stubborn to admit it? Now you are saying that you know what they REALLY think without them having to say it? lol Even for you, thats a new low in debating.

I didn't say I would discuss every topic that pops into your head. Many things do not interest me at all.

How about revolvers v/s semi-auto pistols? Any thoughts?

How about the new short magnums that have been developed? Is the barrel wear and recoil worth the gain in velocity?

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

Lmao!! They are just too stubborn to admit it? Now you are saying that you know what they REALLY think without them having to say it? lol Even for you, thats a new low in debating.

The truth hurts doesn't it? People who hate my guts will never admit when I'm right.

The world will be better off without guns.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

So you know what people think without them having to say it? Thats hilarious raw. Nice try.

So, in other words, you have no opinion about the two topics I brought up? I didn't mention banning guns. I brought up two very specific questions.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

So you know what people think without them having to say it? Thats hilarious raw. Nice try.

And if your wife was gang-raped and you wanted to see if I thought it was wrong and I called you and idiot, you wouldn't think I thought it was wrong?

So, in other words, you have no opinion about the two topics I brought up? I didn't mention banning guns. I brought up two very specific questions.

Names of guns is not specific.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 4 hours ago)

You are ccomparing someone looking down on professional wrestling and gang-rapes? lol

The question of the guns is still valid. Both are questions that are being discussed by police and military, as well as private gun owners.

Revolvers have traits that make them better weapons for many situations. Semi-autos have the same.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 3 hours ago)

You are ccomparing someone looking down on professional wrestling and gang-rapes? lol

Ingoring the point. Classic WinterBorn.

The question of the guns is still valid. Both are questions that are being discussed by police and military, as well as private gun owners.

Revolvers have traits that make them better weapons for many situations. Semi-autos have the same.

The point?

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 3 hours ago)

No, I am not ignoring the point. The point is that you THINK you know that people believe Tek is a snob, when they say he is entitled to his own opinion.

I think that is a far cry from the almost universal dislike of gang-rape.

The point in the gun subjest is that you do not have an opinion on the question of revolvers v/s semi-auto pistols. Just like I have no opinion on whether CCR is fair or not.

Just as an FYI, revolvers are inherently safer to keep loaded and ready, can be much more powerful, usually more accurate, and much cheaper to mass produce. Semi-autos, on the other hand, have adequate power in some calibers, are accurate enough for close range defensive use, have a higher bullet capacity, and are faster to reload.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 3 hours ago)

No, I am not ignoring the point. The point is that you THINK you know that people believe Tek is a snob, when they say he is entitled to his own opinion.

But they still think he's a snob!

The point in the gun subjest is that you do not have an opinion on the question of revolvers v/s semi-auto pistols. Just like I have no opinion on whether CCR is fair or not.

You didn't ask me a question about guns. I showed you what happened on that website and asked you if you thought that was fair or not.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 3 hours ago)

No raw, YOU think he is a snob and you just cannot comprehend that other people think he is entitled to his own opinion. You have no way of knowing what they think.

"How about revolvers v/s semi-auto pistols? Any thoughts?"

I think that is asking if you have any thoughts on the topic. You replies with something completely off topic.

Why would I respond on the fairness of a website that is privately owned.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 3 hours ago)

I think that is asking if you have any thoughts on the topic. You replies with something completely off topic.

Oh, so you asked me if I had any thoughts on guns and I completely went off topic by talking about guns. You didn't ask a specific question and I did. I answered you and you didn't answer me. There is a huge difference there.

Why would I respond on the fairness of a website that is privately owned.

Because I asked you.

KingRaw!
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 3 hours ago)

That is not what I asked you. Look at the question again. I asked if you had any thoughts about the revolver v/s semi-auto pistol debates.

Oh, so I should answer because you asked?

And if I don't have an opinion about it? What should I tell you?

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 3 hours ago)

My postings will be sparse over the next week or so. Holidays being such fun and deer season in full swing.

Find a new target, raw. I'm pretty much done here.

WinterBorn
Dec 21, 2007
(147 days and 3 hours ago)

Let's reveiew shall we?

You tried to make a case against me based on a poll(Which you said are worthless) that proves that all of the raw haters didn't agree with me. What a shock.

You ignored my "even if it saves starving kids lives" question.

You asked me if I had any thoughts on guns and then when I didn't give you a 5 paragraph essay on them, you compared that to you not answering my specific question about that conservative website.

Let me explain the difference old man.....

You asked me if I had any thoughts on the gun vs gun debate. First of all, it's VS not v/s. I thought it was all one gun. Second, I knew nothing about that.

I told you the whole story about that website and asked you if you thought it was fair or not. You did not tell me anything about the gun debate. I am not refusing to talk about your question. You are. Quit putting the spin on things.

KingRaw!
Dec 22, 2007
(146 days and 14 hours ago)

Have fun killing some baby deer's mom.......

KingRaw!
Dec 22, 2007
(146 days and 14 hours ago)

But don't come crying to me when the baby deer grows up, drinks some toxic waste, becomes a super mutated deer and kills your 10 year old daughter.

KingRaw!
Dec 22, 2007
(146 days and 13 hours ago)

I actually proved that you lied when you said that "they all agreed". Because they obviously all didn't agree. When I said polls were worthless it was speaking of the outcome of the poll. In this case it proves that they didn't ALL agree.

Besides, when you counter mine with a claim that you know what people think even if they don't say it....well.....you look stupid.

My question about the guns was legitimate. If you didn't know anything about it then say so. Or say you have no opinion.

Whether the website is fair or not depends on what they claim their website to be. Since I do not know what those claims are, I do not know if its fair or not. I also do not care whether its fair or not. So......I have no opinion. Just because you WANT someone to have an opinion, does not mean that they do.

And I will indeed enjoy hunting deer. Any babies that were born last spring are on their own now.

I will also enjoy eating the tasty venison from the deer.

WinterBorn
Dec 22, 2007
(146 days and 12 hours ago)

"If we start personal insults and bringing up old topics, then we leave for good."

Ever heard of name changes? And besides, even if Raw agreed, you and him wouldn't keep your guys' words.

ShaXdow
Dec 22, 2007
(146 days and 11 hours ago)

I do doubt that raw would keep his word.

So lets just quit this crap now and skip the strutting and dramatic challenges.

WinterBorn
Dec 22, 2007
(146 days and 7 hours ago)

I actually proved that you lied when you said that "they all agreed". Because they obviously all didn't agree. When I said polls were worthless it was speaking of the outcome of the poll. In this case it proves that they didn't ALL agree.

First, I explained that they did agree with me, but they hated Raw and said no to be a douche. Second, you just used the outcome of a poll to make a case against me. You just said the outcome was worthless so by your standards, your case is worthless!

My question about the guns was legitimate.

And mine wasn't?

If you didn't know anything about it then say so.

I did say that Billo.

No WinterBorn, we all no you have "no opinion" on that site because it makes me look good. It's a pretty big coiencidence when you have an opinion on every other subject I bring up except the one where I'm the victim.

And I will indeed enjoy hunting deer. Any babies that were born last spring are on their own now.

I will also enjoy eating the tasty venison from the deer.

Someone give him the man of the year award! He's so kind and peaceful!

I do doubt that raw would keep his word.

Hey Billo, Shadow said BOTH of us couldn't keep our word.

So lets just quit this crap now and skip the strutting and dramatic challenges.

I offered a way to end it forever, but polls are worthless even though you use them to make a case against me. God you're smart.

KingRaw!
Dec 23, 2007
(145 days and 13 hours ago)

....Diss

ShaXdow
Dec 23, 2007
(145 days and 5 hours ago)

Oh my God. Tek is ampy and baliai and the other trolls. They all went away at the same time and now they reappeared at the same time. I can't believe this. I feel so betrayed....

KingRaw!
Dec 24, 2007
(144 days and 10 hours ago)

You know what? I'm sick of the coiencedences here. I'm sick of a fat pig being as big of a troll as me and ends up being praised by everyone. I'm sick of WinterBorn and Tek magically showing up in every forum whenever an argument breaks out between either one of us, not matter how old or what forum it's in. I'm sick of supossed allies dissapearing at the same time as Tek and then showing up an hour later at exactly the same time as he does. I'm sick of the convenient similarites in almost everything and bad debating skills of Tek and Stonemage.I am sick of idiots threatening to sue me and people showing up late for fights and give practically squat for evidence and then expect the other 2 people here to believe it. I am sick of this massive conspirasy. I'm sick of some fat loser pretending to be 20 different people and God knows who else.

I ain't continuing this circus anymore. Too many coiencidences have happened here. Too many people sound identical in threads. Too many people take that fat pigs side over mine where you'd have to be an idiot not to deny my argument.

I've had it. Tek/Ampy/Chip Chop/Homicide/Mista Kennedy/WinterBorn/Peek a boo or whoever the heII else you actually are can go strait to heII!

You don't like that then you can kiss my ass!

KingRaw!
Dec 24, 2007
(144 days and 4 hours ago)

I'm guessing this is when RAW decided to leave....YIPEE!!

MISTA KENNEDAY

Mista Kennedy
Dec 28, 2007
(140 days and 13 hours ago)

You know the sad thing is I believe raw...

Atticus...
Jan 10, 2008
(127 days and 10 hours ago)

...least you're aware of the sadness. Believe her/him if you want. Changes reality not a bit.

Tek Jansen
Jan 12, 2008
(125 days and 20 hours ago)

Yep, the sad reality is you ALL are losers with nothing better to do than spend countless hours here. Peace out.

Atticus...
Jan 12, 2008
(125 days and 11 hours ago)

So... what are you doing here, then?

I merely find it hypocritical that you would bother spending the time to call us losers for the time we spent attacking Raw. It goes in circles.

Especially with such a limited amount of knowledge about hte background of this former-situation.

Geemel
Jan 12, 2008
(125 days and 9 hours ago)

ok this is my third time one here and that adds up to about 30 minutes. You guys spent all that time arguing with raw. For all you know, he could be 5 years old. And I know enough about the situation to conclude that you all are losers for feeding the troll.

Atticus...
Jan 14, 2008
(123 days and 10 hours ago)

So why do you feel the need to justify yourself? Why are you trying to prove yourself to 'losers'?

Tek Jansen
Jan 15, 2008
(122 days and 21 hours ago)

Not to mention, I really don't spend that much time doing this. I mean, the longest it has ever taken me to post is approximately 15 minutes, and htat only happened once, a long time ago. On average, it takes me 2 or 3, and then I'm off.

It's not like I wait here hours on end for someome to reply, I check only once a day for anything I want to bother replying to.

Geemel
Jan 15, 2008
(122 days and 12 hours ago)

I wasn't justifying anything. 30 minutes over the course of 5 days is not the same as hours and hours arguing with a troll. I'm not trying to prove myself to anyone. I'm just stating the obvious.

Atticus...
Jan 15, 2008
(122 days and 11 hours ago)

I spent several hours each evening online. I choose not to waste a lot of time watching tv.

I talk with friends, keep up with whats going on in my kids lives, read the news ect. I usually have 5 or 6 windows open at a time. One is usually GameTalk.

If verbally slapping rawisbetter for his nonsense is a waste of time to you, then you shouldn't do it. I saw it as entertaining.

I know that you think we fed the troll. But if we ignored rawisbetter, he did NOT go away. He simply invaded other forums and caused headaches for other people. What Tek and I did was a public service by keeping him occupied.

If you had seen the threads in which he threatened to rape and kill my wife and children, would you feel as sympathetic towards him? If you saw his rants against gays, blacks, fat people, old people, and numerous other groups, would you still be on his side?

This entire feud started when I interrupted raw as he was berating a 14 year old for not posting his physical address so raw could come beat him up. The kid left the forums shortly thereafter.

In fact, I can think of at least 3 people who no longer come to Gametalk mainly because of the verbal abuse and threats from rawisbetter.

Rawisbetter whined that I had insulted his mother and made fun of her death. After gaining a fair amount of sympathy, it was discovered that I did not post that. It was rawisbetter impersonating me and posting insults about his mother.

Find someone worthy of defending. Rawisbetter is certainly not.

WinterBorn
Jan 15, 2008
(122 days and 5 hours ago)

Don't you see? That's what he wants you to do. I'm telling you, he's most likely some kid trying to be funny. Who takes racism or threats on some forum seriously? I wouldn't and if you all ignored him, I'm sure he would have gotten bored and moved on to some other site.

Atticus...
Jan 16, 2008
(121 days and 11 hours ago)

"Who takes racism or threats on some forum seriously?"

Adults, the law, those who have been attacked when doing nothing wrong....bullying is bullying, virtual or not.

Tek Jansen
Jan 17, 2008
(120 days and 20 hours ago)

Who takes internet threats seriously? Obviously several people have, because they stopped coming into the forums because of raw's threats and verbal attacks.

But I suppose its their fault?

And, as I said, we did ignore raw for a time. He didn't stop. If anything, he became more outrageous and more hostile in order to get reactions.

WinterBorn
Jan 17, 2008
(120 days and 17 hours ago)

That's pretty sad man. If Raw or anyone threatened me and spat out racism, then I'd assume he/she's some idiot kid trying to get attention and ignore him/her. Who exactly did this person scare away?

And I disagree with the bullying remark. Getting physically picked on is nothing like being yelled at on some chat room. People who are intimidated by what some random troll says on a website has some serious problems.

The law? What was this person? A pedophile?

Atticus...
Jan 17, 2008
(120 days and 10 hours ago)

Look, you can say what you want but you fell right into his game. People like that get off on making people angry. They feed on it and if you really ignored them then they'd find some new chat room and leave you alone. But I've looked at some of these older forums and you have no room to talk. You showed up for a fight? What the heII man! You spend all that time arging with him and basically saying for weeks,"We showed up and you didn't" "No way man, I showed up and you didn't" You are just as bad as him. Get a life and stop comming here. Come to think about it, I'm out of here.

Atticus...
Jan 17, 2008
(120 days and 9 hours ago)

Although I thought the whole "meeting in real life" thing was dumb, I did participate in this stupid chapter of forum history.

I did realize early on that he was a troll. However, as I thought of it, our options were limited. We either had to verbally "convince" him to leave, or leave ourselves.

We had no mod to get rid of trolls like him, and the other mods did very little beyond erasing messages.

As I saw it, I wanted him to leave so we could get back to the regular flow of peace-war-world related topics as usual.

Geemel
Jan 18, 2008
(119 days and 13 hours ago)

I have admitted that the visit to the restaurant in Florida was stupid and petty. I am not trying to excuse my own actions.

But your "leave him alone and he will go away" and "internet threats shouldn't bother people" are based on your own ignorance of the situation and refusing to believe what has been posted by several people.

WinterBorn
Jan 18, 2008
(119 days and 7 hours ago)


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